Interview With Cheryl Welsh (3)

Thank you so much for your response again despite of your busy schedule.
Your opinion is always insightful and will help all the victims with staying calm and avoid panic. For us the victims, some facts can be inferred from observations. Unfortunately, however, there still remain some facts that only the perps know. Thus, I will not argue with you over discrepancies of our interpretations. After all, “Divide & Conquer” is always the perps’ aim. Hence, I would rather accept your insights as tips for us to survive.


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Footnotes (by Cheryl Welsh)
In the introduction a few paragraphs down:
The debate’s abrupt ending is not surprising. Wired Blog Network senior editor Kevin Pousen wrote a typical response to “Thought Wars”;
If Weinberger [the reporter for “Thought Wars”] really thinks that somebody she interviewed is receiving microwave messages in their head from government spooks, she should nail that story down tight and collect her Pulitzer. (Why not bring a radio spectrum analyzer to their homes?) Instead, it looks a lot like she exploited her sources’ delusions to add color to an entirely unrelated story on government mind control research. For shame.

Pousen described the required amount of investigation needed for the mind control issue. And clearly there is a vast communications gap between TIs or targeted individuals of mind control as some call themselves, and most people. Few people look beyond the crazy sounding allegations to the significant amount of circumstantial information underneath. As Weinberger accurately reported, most TI’s lives are too disrupted by the targeting to maintain the stability needed to effectively fight the issue. In desperation, some TIs continuously flood news outlets and experts with emails containing science fiction-like, wild sounding allegations and pleas for help. TIs continue to use their stories as proof of their suffering and claims. They have exhausted every possible source of help with allegations that nobody can figure out or begin to investigate. Unfortunately in today’s society, this has only generated publicity and concern for their sanity, not help for TIs.

Many TIs don’t realize that significant evidence is required to effectively inform the public and ask for an investigation. Few TIs work on activism that other human rights groups have successfully used. After decades of failed mind control activism, instead of hiring credible experts and working on documenting evidence that meets the legal, scientific or journalistic standards of proof, a majority of the active TIs still think they have the answers. Right or wrong, this has contributed to the conspiracy theory label.

Also here:

See section 5, below. This is some of the science I think is involved, not hiring people to gangstalk. If the perps can target one victim, why can’t they target the people around the victim to harass the victim and make him look mentally ill, thus enabling the perps to neutralize the enemy or continue to experiment.

Moreno does not see the mind control claims as a human rights issue. He does not accept the possibility that mental illness could be a government cover story for illegal mind control experiments. Like most people, he assumed that alleged mind control victims must be ‘misguided’ or mentally ill for two compelling reasons; many of the victims act and sound like mentally ill people. Secondly, the claims sound fantastical, bizarre and a large number include testimony involving conspiracy theories. Moreno, as with most people, never gets past the assumption of ‘misguided’ or mentally ill, especially given that his father was a famous psychiatrist. In a Dana Press interview, Moreno explained his viewpoint;

So I have a feeling this is going to change when Mind Wars comes out. I also have a feeling that a lot of people aren’t going to be very happy with me.

Why do you say that?

People in bioethics are supposed to be gadflies. We’re supposed to point out what’s going on. And it’s hard to do that without looking like you’re playing gotcha. So I kind of bent over backwards in the book not to do that. That’s not what I’m interested in doing.

Also, there is a big subculture that believes that their brains are being manipulated by insidious forces. Just today I got an email from somebody who is one of these folks who believes that mind control is going on right now and has been since the Sixties. And I’m sure that many neuroscientists do not want to touch that with a 10-foot pole; they don’t want to be identified with any of that stuff. It just makes it a little harder to be taken seriously and it makes it important to be as careful as you can about the way you describe what’s going on.

Victims do not have proof of their claims. Victims have been unable to obtain classified government documents. They have been unable to convince experts of their claims and to hire experts for advanced monitoring or shielding for the alleged EMR signals used on them.

Many victims don’t speak out. A few of the alleged victims are mentally ill. The mind control technology could be very advanced and yet unknown and fantastic sounding to the public. And if the allegations are true, articulating a personal experience of targeting by remote and advanced technology would sound bizarre, ‘crazy‘, like a ‘nut case with delusions of persecution’ or resemble science fiction. But here is a 2004 U.S. Air Force (USAF) document that sounds like science fiction and provided a striking match to victim allegations. The doctrine included “Controlled Effects”, a military description of EMR weapons as soon as 2020-2050. Notable is the description of remote human targeting of “Controlled Personnel Effects” anywhere in the world via satellite.

The USAF is already funding the “Controlled Effects” research and stated the goals can become a reality. The document was authored by USAF chief scientists, taking it out of the realm of science fiction and conspiracy theory. The doctrine included this statement; “With the advent of directed energy and other revolutionary technologies, the ability to instantaneously project very precise amounts of various types of energy anywhere in the world can become a reality.” According to conventional wisdom, classified research is approximately twenty years ahead of unclassified research, another factor in favor of the victim allegations. Here is the full USAF document.

Long-Term Challenges
Fourth in a Series of Articles Addressing Long-Term Challenges from the Air
Force’s Air Power Theory and Doctrine.

AFRL’s Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland AFB NM, and Munitions Directorate, Eglin AFB FL

Dr. William L. Baker (Chief Scientist) and Dr. Eugene J. Bednarz, of the Air Force Research Laboratory’ s Directed Energy Directorate, and Dr. Robert L. Sierakowski (Chief Scientist), of the Air Force Research Laboratory’ s Munitions Directorate, wrote this article.

For more information contact TECH CONNECT at (800) 203-6451 or place a request at Reference document DE-04-01. Article posted at;

Controlled Effects
Scientists Explore the Future of Controlled Effects

The long-term challenges, formulated as part of the Air Force Science and Technology (S&T) Planning Review, sought to determine the capabilities that the Air Force would need in the 2020 to 2050 time period. The identified capabilities needed to address compelling requirements of the Air Force. They are intended to be high risk endeavors with high payoffs, difficult to attain but probably achievable, and not necessarily linear extensions of ongoing technology development programs. One of the long-term challenges developed as a result of this effort is Controlled Effects.

The Controlled Effects challenge envisions the ability to tailor and deliver the most appropriate type and amount of energy onto targets of military significance to create a particular desired effect. Certainly, military capabilities in this general area have improved through the application of advanced technology research and development. Long-range bombers can strike anywhere on the earth in a matter of hours and have the capability to deliver devastating power. Moreover, laser and Global Positioning System/ inertial guided weapons have demonstrated unprecedented precision during recent military conflicts. The Controlled Effects challenge focuses on new and revolutionary technologies to significantly enhance these capabilities and determine how these technologies could change the face of military conflict over the next 20 to 50 years.

With the advent of directed energy and other revolutionary technologies, the ability to instantaneously project very precise amounts of various types of energy anywhere in the world can become a reality. The Controlled Effects long term technology challenge embodies this vision. Targets of military significance include facilities and equipment, personnel, and communications and information systems. Military commanders want to inflict effects that can be either lethal or nonlethal, and they can be either very localized or dispersed in nature. In general, if it becomes possible to instantaneously put warning energy spots on any target worldwide and then rapidly follow this warning with varying levels of effects, the military commander would possess unparalleled operational flexibility and response. The end result is a significantly enhanced conventional deterrence.

The Controlled Effects long term challenge focuses technology developments in three primary areas (see figure). Measured Global Force Projection looks at the exploitation of electromagnetic and other nonconventional force capabilities against facilities and equipment to achieve strategic, tactical, and lethal and nonlethal force projection around the world. Controlled Personnel Effects investigates technologies to make selected adversaries think and act according to our needs. Dominant Remote Control seeks to control, at a distance, an enemy’ s vehicles, sensors, communications, and information systems and manipulate them for military purposes. The S&T Planning Review panel looked first at extending the applications of advanced military technologies currently under development and then at new, revolutionary technologies for their military significance.

Within the Measured Global Force Projection capability, the panel investigated the potential for using electromagnetic and other nonconventional force capabilities to achieve strategic, tactical, lethal, and nonlethal force projection. The electromagnetic spectrum includes lasers, high-power microwaves, and particle-beam weaponry. Nonconventional weapons included loitering micromunitions, variable effects munitions, and environmental energetics. Lasers and high-power microwaves represent the majority of technical research in the directed energy arena, and each has its own set of advantages. Laser weapons are capable of putting a small, very high intensity, very hot spot of light on a target, causing structural damage. High-power microwaves, on the other hand, generally flood target areas with radiation to cause electronic disruption and destruction. By varying the output power, both are capable of graduated effects from denial and disruption of operations at low power to destruction at high power. Both travel at the speed of light, so the effects are nearly instantaneous. Particle beams are another form of directed energy. Particle beam weapons accelerate atomic or subatomic particles, such as electrons or protons, to form high-energy beams. These beams of accelerated particles penetrate to the interior of the targets, causing damage or destruction through a combination of ionizing radiation, shock, and heating.

In the nonconventional arena, loitering micromunitions take advantage of very small-scale combinations of sensing, tagging, and damage mechanisms integrated into units that can be very inconspicuous. Micromunitions will be very small-less than a 6-inch wingspan-and can be equipped with a suite of cameras and two-way communications. They would have the ability to operate surreptitiously in a particular environment and then be called into action when needed to provide target location information, tag targets of interest, or cause required damage. Another concept is variable effects munitions or ‘dial-an-effect’ weapons. These take advantage of ultrahigh- energy-density materials known as nanoexplosives or, in the very long term, antimatter. Scientists envision variable effects munitions that can accurately deliver an optimal lethality to a broad range of targets. The effects can vary in the type of damage mechanism (e.g., blast/fragment, thermal, or electromagnetic pulse) as well as the magnitude of the energy deposited on the target so that it will be just enough to defeat the target while minimizing collateral damage. And lastly, environmental energetics looks at the possibility of controlling the forces of nature on a local basis to enable the warfighter to disrupt an adversary’ s operations. A common nonmilitary example of this is cloud seeding to produce rain, but taking this a step further for military applications might include the initiation of lightning to disrupt communications or destroy electronic systems.

For the Controlled Personnel Effects capability, the S&T panel explored the potential for targeting individuals with nonlethal force, from a militarily useful range, to make selected adversaries think or act according to our needs. Through the application of nonlethal force, it is possible to physically influence or incapacitate personnel. Advanced technologies could enable the warfighter to remotely create physical sensations such as pressure or temperature changes. A current example of this technology is Active Denial, a nonlethal counterpersonnel millimeter wave system that creates a skin heating sensation to repel an individual or group of people without harm.1 By studying and modeling the human brain and nervous system, the ability to mentally influence or confuse personnel is also possible. Through sensory deception, it may be possible to create synthetic images, or holograms, to confuse an individual’ s visual sense or, in a similar manner, confuse his senses of sound, taste, touch, or smell. Through cognitive engineering, scientists can develop a better understanding of how an individual’ s cognitive processes (pattern recognition, visual conditioning, and difference detection) affect his decisionmaking processes. Once understood, scientists could use these cognitive models to predict a person’ s behavior under a variety of conditions with the potential to affect an adversary’ s mission accomplishment via a wide range of personnel effects.

As technology has advanced over recent years, most, if not all, systems are controlled by, or include, some form of computer or electronic components. Within the Dominant Remote Control capability, the S&T panel investigated the remote manipulation of adversarial electronic systems to control vehicles, sensors, communications, and information systems. In one scenario, the vision is to take control of enemy offensive and defensive military systems (a spacecraft, aircraft, or ground vehicle) and use them to our advantage. It might be possible to either confuse enemy systems so they would be unable to successfully perform their mission or to take control of enemy systems and remotely manipulate them. In another application, the control and manipulation of an adversary’ s communications and information streams would cause confusion or provide false information. The ability to disrupt or degrade an adversary’ s computers and information systems could render them inoperable or insert false information which, in turn, would significantly impair the enemy’ s ability to communicate. If our military commanders could achieve this dominant remote control capability, all aspects of the enemy’ s operations in the battlefield could be controlled to our advantage.

Within the Controlled Effects long term challenge, the S&T panel investigated the ability to tailor and deliver the most appropriate type and amount of energy onto targets of military significance to create a desired effect. Scientists are currently developing technologies to enable a number of first-generation applications. These include high-energy lasers, highpower microwaves, micro air vehicles, and some forms of antipersonnel systems. Others, like sensory deception and environmental energetics, are truly futuristic and require a great deal of research and development for far-term applications. Scientists will have to overcome technological hurdles, such as the production and storage of antimatter, the ability to propagate sensory information, or the ability to harness and extract energy from the environment, before these science fiction concepts will become reality. The technologies and applications described within the Controlled Effects long-term challenge will revolutionize the face of military conflict in the coming century.

Dismissing victims as crazy is not new. The August 31, 1997, New York Times Magazine article Atomic Guinea Pigs, discussed radiation experiment victims who were labeled “the crazies” by the Department of Energy officials until declassified government documents proved otherwise. Past illegal and unethical radiation experiments illustrate that the U.S. government is capable of wide scale, long-term, inhumane treatment by trusted officials.

The 2002 scandal involving Catholic priests sexually molesting young boys is analogous to mind control experiments and is a persuasive case of how terrible acts can be kept secret for years by a great and trusted organization. Many top Catholic officials kept the sexual molestations secret for years. See December 31, 2002, Los Angeles Times, Molestation Scandal Wrenched Church Hierarchy and Faithful. The sexual molestations took place for decades, on a large scale and were called “the greatest scandal in the history of the American Catholic Church.” The molestations were not known by the public because the policy of the Catholic church was to ignore the problem. Surrounded by the denials of Catholic officials, the charges were unbelievable, horrific and extremely difficult to prove. Finally, widespread media coverage forced the very reluctant church in Rome to address the scandal. Mind control victims are in a similar situation.

The disclosure of the tobacco industry’s decades-long knowledge of the health risks of smoking and it’s addictive nature is also analogous to mind control experiments. Tobacco company officials at the highest levels condoned and contributed to the tobacco deaths of smokers while at the same time, making billions of dollars for over half a century. In 1994, top officials lied under oath to Congress stating they didn’t believe cigarettes were addictive or caused cancer. Tobacco company documents contradicted their testimony.

In the information age, inhumane, even horrific acts and the complicity of the many silent bystanders does occur. Mind control experiments could happen today. The thousands of victims that contact Moreno are for the most part, alleging very advanced mind control EMR weapons targeting and Moreno completely rejected this viewpoint. The main lesson from this book for Mind Justice is to change the focus on how to work on this issue. A better strategy may be to work on gathering hard evidence such as detecting the alleged advanced electromagnetic signals used on victims to prove mind control allegations and to call for a thorough, impartial investigation.


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